FREEZE, FLIGHT or FIGHT
or main reactions to rejection
- 20 FEBRUARY 2008 - cyberformance by igneous using UpStage


15 minutes 50 sec  (18.9Mb)


LOG - 20 February 2008 at 9pm (brisbane australia time)

welcome! show starts at 9pm (Brisbane time)
 hello?
 am i supposed to see something??
 nothing here
 hello?
 it is only 8.19 here in brisie
 where r u?
 type here
 hallo from Bielsko- Biala , Poland we have 11.30 am ;-)
 hello from Brussels
 bielsko-biala and brussels hello
 hi
 i just look an announce in the screen
 and now nothing
 here is 11:50
 that was a preparatory step not the show
 k
 maybe you can write here something like: "test" :)
 good idea
 "this is a test": how's it going?
 SCREEN TEST
 do u see black?
 yes
 good
 BLACK TEST ;)
 show starts in twenty minutes
 there are 8 online audience
 ok thanks
 how do you know that? can I see this information too? (where?)
 no only players can see that
 i am a player
 ok
 there are 2 players for this show
 what is your name "player"?
 Suzon and James
 ok Suzon, James
 i am james
 2 / 8
 yes
 not bad odds
 mm
 players play audience and audience play players;)
 yeah
 are u ok with that?
 oui
 i mean how i can know who is who here in this chat?
 can't
 ok
 so we are all players and audience here in these words then maybe
 at the mo
 unless you self-identify
 yes
 k
 but one can falsely identify too
 that's true
 (or false)
 mm
 i'm lying
 down?
 ;)
 maybe
 i'm sitting
 who's lying down?
 pretty
 maybe i 'm not in brussels / do you know localisation of the audience online?
 i'm not going to take this lying down
 no don't
 no, do you?
 we know some things
 9 in audience
 hello 9
 youre one of them!
 hi new audience
 no i'm 9
 are you 1?
 2 or 3?
 123?
 I was 1 ...
 what do you can say about black screen?
 i was once
 hmm
 do you have your speakers on?
 it's black
 there is no sound yet
 they haven't started
 ah ok i want take my headphones then
 its important to have sound
 when the sound starts so does the "show"
 ok
 i have now
 10 minutes to sound
 wow
 k
 we should make tea
 opposite to guy debord : a black screen and sound
 ;)
 i have a cup of coffee here in brussel
 same color black too
 my coffee in this screen
 i drink the black
 very normal: drink black with headphones, a new form of breakfast..
 can I have a cofee cream?
 does it taste better
 what i wait about here?
 cream: wait
 waiter some cream
 \
 \
 \
 \
 \
 \
 ok
 \
 end of cream
 hi from townsville queensland australia
 trying to backslash away history?
 hi from brisbane australia :)
 hi townsville
 hello
 queeeeensland
 shouyld we see something in the screen space?
 not yet
 here you have brussel (belgia), townville (australia), ... and what town else?
 it hasn't started
 3 minutes to go!
 you should see black and hear only your harddrive
 brisbane
 i hear small children & TV
 that's very true
 thats ok too
 we have had flooding rain and evacuation of mother
 phew
 but have your speakers on!!
 wow
 flood where?
 townsville?
 Emerald End Barron River
 oh
 is she ok?
 brisbane (Poland) too yes
 yes - she drove down the range just in time
 brisbane poland??
 11 in audience
 we will start 2 minutes
 poland is on line ;)
 what number upstage performance is this?
 goodquestion!
 who are the 'actors'?
 about 20?
 2 actors
 james & suzon
 and 'director'?
 yourself
 ?
 do you have a 'script'?
 yes, sometimes
<surgeon> Transplant rejection occurs when the immune system of the recipient of a transplant attacks the transplanted organ or tissue. This is because a normal healthy human immune system can distinguish foreign tissues and attempts to destroy them, just as it attempts to destroy infective organisms such as bacteria and viruses. Hyperacute rejection is a complement-mediated response in recipients with pre-existing antibodies to the donor (for example, ABO blood type antibodies). Hyperacute rejection occurs within minutes and the transplant must be immediately removed to prevent a severe systemic inflammatory response. Rapid coagulation of the blood occurs. This is a particular risk in kidney transplants, and so a prospective cytotoxic crossmatch is performed prior to kidney transplantation to ensure that antibodies to the donor are not present. For other organs, hyperacute rejection is prevented by transplanting only ABO-compatible grafts. Hyperacute rejection is the likely outcome of xenotransplanted organs
 has the performance statred?3
<surgeon> Acute rejection is generally acknowledged to be mediated by T cell responses to proteins from the donor organ which differ from those found in the recipient. Unlike antibody-mediated hyperacute rejection, development of T cell responses first occurs several days after a transplant if the patient is not taking immunosuppressant drugs. Since the development of powerful immunosuppressive drugs such as cyclosporin, tacrolimus and rapamycin, the incidence of acute rejection has been greatly decreased, however, organ transplant recipients can develop acute rejection episodes months to years after transplantation. Acute rejection episodes can destroy the transplant if it is not recognized and treated appropriately. Episodes occur in around 60-75% of first kidney transplants, and 50 to 60% of liver transplants
 i'm listening
 )))
<surgeon> A single episode is not a cause for concern if recognised and treated promptly and rarely leads to organ failure, but recurrent episodes are associated with chronic rejection of grafts. The bulk of the immune system response is to the Major Histocompatibility Complex (MHC) proteins. MHC proteins are involved in the presentation of foreign antigens to T cells, and receptors on the surface of the T cell (TCR) are uniquely suited to recognition of proteins of this type. MHC are highly variable between individuals, and therefore the T cells from the host recognize the foreign MHC with a very high frequency leading to powerful immune responses that cause rejection of transplanted tissue. Identical twins and cloned tissue are MHC matched, and are therefore not subject to T cell mediated rejection. The first successful organ transplant was performed between identical twins by Dr. Joseph Murray at the Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. This transplant was successful because no T cell mediated responses were generated to the transplanted organ. Dr. Murray later received a Nobel prize for his work
<sociologist> Social rejection exists in a variety of different forms and includes both interpersonal rejection or peer rejection, and romantic rejection. It occurs when an individual is deliberately excluded from a social relationship or social interaction. A person can be rejected on an individual basis or by an entire group of people. Furthermore, rejection can occur either actively by bullying, teasing, or ridiculing, or passively by ignoring the rejected person (e.g. the silent treatment). Rejection can be perceived when it is not actually present. Because humans are social creatures, and because it is impossible to interact with everyone all the time, some level of rejection is an inevitable part of life. However, rejection can become a problem when it is excessive, when the relationship is important, when the rejection is by an entire group, or when the individual is particularly sensitive to rejection. The experience of rejection can potentially lead to a number of adverse psychological consequences such as loneliness, reduced self-esteem, aggression, and depression.  It can also lead to feelings of insecurity and a heightened sensitivity to future rejection
<sociologist> Rejection can be emotionally painful because of the social nature of human beings and our basic need to be accepted in groups. Abraham Maslow and other theorists have suggested that the need for love and belongingness is a fundamental human motivation. All humans, even introverts, require a certain amount of social acceptance and interaction to be psychologically healthy. Being a member of a group is important for social identity, which is a key component of the self-concept. Rejection by an entire group of people can have especially adverse effects, particularly when it results in social isolation. Social psychological research confirms the motivational basis of the need for acceptance. Specifically, fear of rejection can lead to conformity to peer pressure (sometimes called normative influence), and compliance to the demands of others. Our need for affiliation and social interaction appears to be particularly strong when we are under stress
 oups very long to read...
 where has this text been generated?
 it's possible to save this screen text here ..?
<rejection> good evening and good day!
 yes
 to read later again
 yes
<rejection> I'd like to give a little rundown on my subject of expertise
 good morning
<rejection> then I am going to ask you to answer some questions and talk about your own experiences
<rejection> the brain perceives rejection as a mortal threat, and the main responses to stress or danger are
<rejection> freeze
<rejection> flight
<rejection> fight
<rejection> it starts with shock and disbelief, leads into different stages that entail anger and depression and ultimately leads to letting go and resolution
<rejection> let yourself go through it.  If you feel like youre going to fall, and if you go with it you probably wont get injured.
<rejection> If you resist, youll be much more likely to get injured
<rejection> FREEZE is that profound sense of block and immovability. It even goes along with brain freeze, where you have trouble thinking and making sense of things
<rejection> FLIGHT is more the heart pumping, the anxiety, the tingling or numbness in ones body
<rejection> FIGHT doesnt mean trying to strike back at the rejector
<rejection> It means persevering until you prevail, and it also means really working at your craft in a way that is between you and yourself
<rejection> so here are my questions
<rejection> when you hear the word 'rejection', what are the first 3 words which come to your mind?
<rejection> you out there
 sad
<rejection> yes
 mad
<rejection> any words?
 bad
  pain
 Fear, Hide, Disbelief
<rejection> more yes
 fuckers
 failure
<rejection> great
 anguish
 fear
<rejection> fantastic
<rejection> responses
 isolation
<rejection> not fantastic feelings
<rejection> what do you feel when you get rejected?
 hurt
 angry
 disempoerment
 Insecure, Uncertain, Angry, Disbelief
 it's a brain test here?
<rejection> yes insecure
<rejection> brain test
<rejection> test it
<rejection> a little
<rejection> how do you react?
 depends
 withdrawal
 over eat
 drink
<rejection> eat
 cry
<rejection> yes
<rejection> cry
 play computer games
 then laugh
<rejection> hide?
 depends of the context
 Indignation, Withdrawal, Spite, Isolate myself, Run,
 withdrawal crushed angry
<rejection> games not bad
 depends of the intensity of the reject i feel
<rejection> there are many levels
<rejection> yes
<rejection> true
 depends
<rejection> what do you do to get over your feelings?
 go under them
 eat
 read book
 create art
 Write, read, poetry, collage, jog, talk to myself.
 not the same
 talk to friends
 have sex
 go for bike ride
 take a walk on the beach
<rejection> sex
<rejection> not bad
<rejection> got a beach there?
<rejection> there are many different kinds of rejections, lets take REJECTION LETTERS as an example
 yes
<rejection> about how many rejection letters have you received so far?
 failure
 countless
 not many
 all the time
<rejection> me too
 yes many differents possibilities
 Not many maybe half a dozen in my life.
 standard reaction to everything proposed
<rejection> what are some recurring phrases or words?
 not at this time
<rejection> any non standard reactions?
 we really liked it but ...
 not what we are looking for
 unfortunatly..
 The quality of the candidate was very high at this time.
 not enought money
 your too good
 we will look into it in the future
<rejection> yes you get that
 too younh
<rejection> what criteria would make a good rejection letter?
 too old
 overqualified
 underqualified
<rejection> if you could choose
 don't understand question
 To self absorbed
<rejection> criteria?
 one with a joke
<rejection> for the letter
 one that came with a cheque
<rejection> he he
 you are trying to re-find your youth
<rejection> thats not bad
 where they tell you they don't really know & have no funding anyway!
 if i can choose i prefer to not choose with criteria
 ability to flfil dreams
<rejection> money punishment
<rejection> give it to us
 The electrolysis was unsuccessful.
<rejection> what would you like to do with all those letters?
 i mean more with person directly
 burn them
<rejection> rejection letters
 stuff them
 post them on the wall og the house of commons
 eat them
 paper the toilet walls
 use as toilet paper
 recycle them
 burn
<rejection> rejection
 Collage them, rearrange them
 send them back
<rejection> reaction
<rejection> release
<rejection> recover
<rejection> \rethink
<rejection> revisit
 recjoice
 Reciprocity
 we recycle the same words all the time so we have not better words
<rejection> reach
<rejection> recap
<rejection> re apply
<rejection> artists are creative heroes striving against the odds  
 R
 re-imagine
 R test
<rejection> they dont create to succeed. They create to create. They try to succeed to prevail and live, but they create to create
<rejection> its true
 who says
<rejection> i say
 thats old school romantic thinking><
 what is create?
 you say
 we say
<rejection> im old school maybe
 do you think we're creating?
<rejection> but because they often work in isolation, they get rejected in isolation and need the web of connection and mutual support to help break the fall and bounce back
 yes we are creating
<the BIG rappers> rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection
 I think its true it sustains the fabric of community and living
 <oh my oh my, noooooo>
<the BIG rappers> rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection
 who is rojecting the artis
 LOOP
<the BIG rappers> rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection
 who can reject the artist
 Bounce, Bounce, Back, Back, Back
<the small> rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection/a 0
 CLEAN BRAIN TEST
 who can reject the artists
 artists
<the BIG rappers> rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection rejection
<rejection> rejection rejection. Heres a reflection, might get down but can turn it round
 we reject ourselves
 who can reject the artists
<rejection> rejection rejection. Heres a reflection, might get down but can turn it round
<rejection> rejection rejection. Heres a reflection, might get down but can turn it round
 i am a reject
<james> the end
 thanks
<james> thatys all
 clap clap clap
 more
 thank you
 applause
 Re-end
 im lost
 ;)
<james> you were fantastic audience
<suzon> wow
 shucks, thanks
<james> heaps to say
 clap clap thank you
 Clap, Clap, enthusiastic applause.
<suzon> thank u for coming
 FANTASTIC A BIG WORD
<james> 13 in audience
 thanks!
 thank you for performing
 tkx too
 I was a bit late sorry
<suzon> did u hide james?
<james> you got your digits going
 time confusion
 when is the next 'performance/
 Thank you so much this was so good.
 me too - still confused???
 thanks & see you again
 next performance is in 9 hours
 (is that right, 9?)
<james> same show repeated
<suzon> there are new features in Upstage
 I hope it goes well
 6am brisbane time
 ok, sleep well then!
<suzon> next walk tru is on 5th of March
 SEE YOU
 OK
 bye
 How do I make sure I don't miss any shows?
 bye margie
 join the email list
 Thanks I will
 DO YOU HAVE A MAIL LIST SUZON?
<james> they will show other possibilities with upstage
<suzon> a mail list
<suzon> what do u mean?
 email list
<james> webcam...photos....prerecorded sound
 yes suzon has one
 and there is an upstage email list too
 EMail list to contact people for the audience.
<suzon> yes
 IF WE CAN SUBSCRIBE SOMEWHERE TO RECEIVE NEWS OF THE UPSTAGE?
<suzon> do we have yours?
 OK
 No.
 to join the upstage email list, go to www.upstage.org.nz
<james> www.upstage.org.nz
 K
<james> thats it twice
 Great I will head there from here
 someone asked about reading the log
<suzon> any comment about this performance?
 we can save the log, the text chat
 YES POSSIBLE TO SAVE HERE THIS CHAT?
 yes, it is being saved
<suzon> yes
 OR TO SEE SOMEWHERE IT
 suzon, will you put the log on your site?
 I CAN DO?
 OK
 with other documentation of the performance?
<suzon> you type after this link /log
<suzon> and you get it
 until the stage is reset
 THANKS
 we will be saving it
<james> but maybe thats only possible if youre logged in as player
<suzon> we can put the log on our website yes
 no i think it works for non-logged in too
<james> thats igneous.org.au
 I really enjoyed the rejection letters and the accompanying read text and then the interactive movement between the audience members and the actors.
 Thanks
<james> uh huh
<suzon> something else?
 YES sometimes i felt like in a test time with this vocal voice too..
 i enjoyed seeing it again
<suzon> we are working on a new show about identity
 I am actually quite amused by the sound of the voice it is a little robotic
 yes it is like a test
 mm
 it is robotic
 it is a computer
 swim walk talk confide yes
 it's your live voice transformed?
 no
 it's text2speech
<james> bots trying to learn about rejection
 the computer reads the text aloud
<suzon> so it was funny to read people b4 the show commenting about self identity!!!!
 UpStage has about 100 different voices
 ok
<james> different accents
<surgeon> like this
 How do you choose which one to use.
 K
<surgeon> for instance
<suzon> yes... about that.... we ar elooking for french speaking voices
 I like that one.
<suzon> cause next walk tru will be also in french
 talk more, surgeon
<surgeon> those that can read french accents
<suzon> and only 3 voices can read french
<surgeon> what do you want me to say?
 It sounds great in French accent.
 SO UPSTAGE IS ALSO A ROBOTIC VOICE
<surgeon> anything?
<surgeon> heaps of things
<suzon> i mean saying the french sounds: on ou en an etc
 yes
<surgeon> on ou en
<suzon> not like this voice!
<surgeon> on
<surgeon> no
<suzon> on like suzon
<surgeon> damn
<surgeon> ou
<surgeon> not bad
<surgeon> ou
<surgeon> an
<surgeon> an
 WELL WITH THIS GENDER ACCENT TOO
<surgeon> en
<surgeon> in
<surgeon> an
<suzon> no it is not robotic voice it is text speech
 text2speech
 What is the difference
 the computer is reading the text
 SOMETIMES INTERESTING TOO WHEN I CAN'T RECOGNIZE GENDER TOO
 yes, some are a bit ambiguous
<suzon> there are some really nice cute polish accent voices too
 <surgeon> great
<surgeon> not on this stage unfortunately so we cant demonstrate
 suzon - i'll stop recording soon bcos i'm worried about not saving it all
 hi hi i wanted try if the robotic voice read me if i'm surgeon..
<sociologist> what did u say?
 you have to choose the voices first
<sociologist> ok dear!
 and put them on the stage
 <sociologist> i'm social human being?
<sociologist> ok
<sociologist> ciao!
 doesn't mean you have to finish
<sociologist> bzzzz
 bye bye
<surgeon> thanks for coming
<sociologist> yes
<surgeon> cous cous
 you can keep chatting
<sociologist> cous cous
 i just meant i will stop the recording
<sociologist> kiss kiss
 but feel free to keep chatting
<sociologist> cous cous
<sociologist> well other comment or question
<surgeon> or chat amongst yourselves
<sociologist> ourselves?
 the robotic voice can read me ?
<surgeon> those feeling chatty
<sociologist> the robotic voice can read me
 the audience is silent
 you have to be holding an avatar to speak aloud
 k
<surgeon> excpt one
<surgeon> k
<surgeon> mysterious k
<sociologist> ok?
<surgeon> who is k?
 so here talk too about control of the audience
<sociologist> k?
<surgeon> ok?
 hen: we did that on purpose, make the audience silent
 hen: but we are looking at ways to have a "volunteer" from the audience
 so i have questions too ;) :words write is silent?
 hi
<surgeon> oh oh
 hen: so someone from audience can take a temporary avatar and come on stage
 hen: the words the audience write are silent, yet
 yes
<surgeon> and really reak havoc
<sociologist> that would be really cool in next performance
 hen: it is possible for the avatars to speak silently
 hen: james can you show them thinking?
 interesting to ask what happens between you and us
<sociologist> ah yes we didnt use the thought balloon
 also about this robotoic voice of control
[surgeon] {i'll think about that}
[suzon] {like this}
 mm
 i can do that?
[suzon] {like that}
<suzon> no
 ok
<suzon> not yet
[surgeon] {better see a run through on march 5 for all the tricks}
 I am nadia
<suzon> yes come to the walk tru
<suzon> you need to have a log in
 en: hi nadia! : )
<suzon> hi nadia
 hi
 this is helen : )
<surgeon> hi nadis
<suzon> from paris?
<surgeon> nadia
<surgeon> hi en
<suzon> nadia from paris?
 you can parlez francais
 i am in lebanon now :)
<suzon> oui je parle francais mais la voix ne parle pas
 lol
 c est pas grave je vais lir
<surgeon> peut etre avec cette voix-ci
<surgeon>  non pas vraiment mieux
<sociologist> lol
<sociologist> mieux
 je nai pas pu venir avant
<surgeon> mais la prochain walk tru, on mettra les 3 voix francaises qu'on a
 est ce que la performance a deja commance?
<surgeon> la performance est finie!
 i like balloon
 ohhhhh nonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
<surgeon> dans 8 h30 minutes
 and this red "R"
 a presence
 with this foot moving
<suzon> oops
 demain il aura une autre n est ce pas
 ?
<suzon> la voix parle toute seule
<suzon> !!!!
 but now james your voice talk but not text ?
<suzon> oui il y a une seconde performance dans 8heures 30 minutes
<suzon> ou etes-vous sur la planete?
 je suis a beyrouth Lebanon
<suzon> comme ca je peux vous dire a quelle heure ce sera pour vous
 au liban
<suzon> donc c'est une heure de plus que pqris
<suzon> paris
<suzon> ?
 oui c est ca
 une heur de plus
<suzon> donc il sera 22h
<suzon> aujourd'hui
 ah super
<suzon> mercredi pour vous a 22h a beyrouth
 et c est la meme performance d aujordhui?
<suzon> et a 21h a bruxelles ou paris
<suzon> oui
 liban meme heure que Burxelles oui
 il ya pas d avatar?
<suzon> mais ce sera different selon les personnes dans le public
 c'est la voix
 il y aque le R qui parle n est ce pas?
 oui j imagine
 2 voix
 2 acteurs
<suzon> 1 minute je verifie
 nous tions 13 dans le public ici sur le chat
 ok
 ha oui et ca c est bien passe
<suzon> non
 ?
<suzon> y en d'autres
<suzon>  qui parlent
 tu veux dire d'autres acteurs que toi et james
<suzon> mais si vous m'avez pas vu le spectacl il vaut mieux revenir demain
 oui oui c est ca
 mais je suis curieuse :)
<suzon> non on est a 2 a tout manipuler et parler
 oui tu parles d'acteurs et personnages alors suzon
 ok
<suzon> confirmation c'est a 22h a beyrouth
 2 acteurs et plusieurs voix
<suzon> oui chaque avatar peut avoir un eautre voix
 le public peux participe avec la voix aussi
 merci suzon et james
 bye bye
<suzon> non pas de voix pour le public mais le tchat
<suzon> bye!
<suzon> bzz
<rejection> cous cous
 bise
<suzon> bzzzz
 j'arrive pas  copier/coller ce chat
<suzon>  a tout a l'heure?
 bon si tu peux me l'envoyer je veux bien suzon
<suzon> a tout a l'heure beyrouth?
<suzon> q aui dois-je envoyer le log?
 c'est nathalie fougeras ici pour l'envoi du chat
 ok a tout a l heure a beyrouth et partout :)
<suzon>  ah ok!
 ciao
<suzon> bonjour nathalie!
 je vous embrasse
 bonjour suzon
<suzon> chouette que tu sois venue!
 oui j'tais l sur bruxelles
 merci
 pour l'invitation
<suzon> upstage peut aussi employer des webcams
 demain je ne peux pas
 ah ok
<suzon>  on a choisi de faire quelque chose de cartoonesque pour cette perf
 j'aimerai bien voir une perf. avec webcams aussi oui
<suzon> mais on en a fait d'autres plus "realistes"
 oui le R
<suzon> tu peux voir sur notre site un enregistrement
 ok merci
<suzon> si tu cliques sur le old hotel
 k merci
<suzon> une partie de la perf se faisait avec un public de proximite
 en australie
 k
<suzon> j'attrape la crampe au pieds!!!
 avec le chat?! :)
<suzon> non le public etait a londres dans un vieil hotel
 k
 merci
 je dois y aller
<suzon> ok
<suzon> bzzzz
 bye bye
 thanks
 all
 thank u too
 thanks a lot - hen

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LOG - 21 February 2008 at 6am (brisbane australia time)

the performance starts in 30 minutes
salut
il y a quelqun'un
?
suzon?
c'est nadia :)
<rejection> bonsoir!
bonsoir
finalement c est a 10h du liban que ca comence
oui c'est ce que je pensais
1h en plus que paris ou bxl
la performance est en anglais
est ce qu on quelques chose a fair nous public avant la performance?
oui je sais que c est en anglais
choisir un avatar par exemple ou non juste par chat
?
je vais enregitrer la performance par ma camera video
le public peut repondre en ecrivant dans le tchat
ok
tu n'as pas de programme pour enregistrer l'ecran? par exemple grab ou snapz pro
non :(
bonsoir
hi, am I too early?
<FFF> no not too early
thanks
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Bonsoir vous, je suis en ligne aussi. j'attends. Karine
<surgeon> Transplant rejection occurs when the immune system of the recipient of a transplant attacks the transplanted organ or tissue. This is because a normal healthy human immune system can distinguish foreign tissues and attempts to destroy them, just as it attempts to destroy infective organisms such as bacteria and viruses. Hyperacute rejection is a complement-mediated response in recipients with pre-existing antibodies to the donor (for example, ABO blood type antibodies). Hyperacute rejection occurs within minutes and the transplant must be immediately removed to prevent a severe systemic inflammatory response. Rapid coagulation of the blood occurs. This is a particular risk in kidney transplants, and so a prospective cytotoxic crossmatch is performed prior to kidney transplantation to ensure that antibodies to the donor are not present. For other organs, hyperacute rejection is prevented by transplanting only ABO-compatible grafts. Hyperacute rejection is the likely outcome of xenotransplanted organs
<surgeon> Acute rejection is generally acknowledged to be mediated by T cell responses to proteins from the donor organ which differ from those found in the recipient. Unlike antibody-mediated hyperacute rejection, development of T cell responses first occurs several days after a transplant if the patient is not taking immunosuppressant drugs. Since the development of powerful immunosuppressive drugs such as cyclosporin, tacrolimus and rapamycin, the incidence of acute rejection has been greatly decreased, however, organ transplant recipients can develop acute rejection episodes months to years after transplantation. Acute rejection episodes can destroy the transplant if it is not recognized and treated appropriately. Episodes occur in around 60-75% of first kidney transplants, and 50 to 60% of liver transplants
<surgeon> A single episode is not a cause for concern if recognised and treated promptly and rarely leads to organ failure, but recurrent episodes are associated with chronic rejection of grafts. The bulk of the immune system response is to the Major Histocompatibility Complex (MHC) proteins. MHC proteins are involved in the presentation of foreign antigens to T cells, and receptors on the surface of the T cell (TCR) are uniquely suited to recognition of proteins of this type. MHC are highly variable between individuals, and therefore the T cells from the host recognize the foreign MHC with a very high frequency leading to powerful immune responses that cause rejection of transplanted tissue. Identical twins and cloned tissue are MHC matched, and are therefore not subject to T cell mediated rejection. The first successful organ transplant was performed between identical twins by Dr. Joseph Murray at the Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. This transplant was successful because no T cell mediated responses were generated to the transplanted organ. Dr. Murray later received a Nobel prize for his work
<sociologist> Social rejection exists in a variety of different forms and includes both interpersonal rejection or peer rejection, and romantic rejection. It occurs when an individual is deliberately excluded from a social relationship or social interaction. A person can be rejected on an individual basis or by an entire group of people. Furthermore, rejection can occur either actively by bullying, teasing, or ridiculing, or passively by ignoring the rejected person (e.g. the silent treatment). Rejection can be perceived when it is not actually present. Because humans are social creatures, and because it is impossible to interact with everyone all the time, some level of rejection is an inevitable part of life. However, rejection can become a problem when it is excessive, when the relationship is important, when the rejection is by an entire group, or when the individual is particularly sensitive to rejection. The experience of rejection can potentially lead to a number of adverse psychological consequences such as loneliness, reduced self-esteem, aggression, and depression. It can also lead to feelings of insecurity and a heightened sensitivity to future rejection
<sociologist> Rejection can be emotionally painful because of the social nature of human beings and our basic need to be accepted in groups. Abraham Maslow and other theorists have suggested that the need for love and belongingness is a fundamental human motivation. All humans, even introverts, require a certain amount of social acceptance and interaction to be psychologically healthy. Being a member of a group is important for social identity, which is a key component of the self-concept. Rejection by an entire group of people can have especially adverse effects, particularly when it results in social isolation. Social psychological research confirms the motivational basis of the need for acceptance. Specifically, fear of rejection can lead to conformity to peer pressure (sometimes called normative influence), and compliance to the demands of others. Our need for affiliation and social interaction appears to be particularly strong when we are under stress
<rejection> good evening and good day!
hallooooo!
<rejection> I'd like to give a little rundown on my subject of expertise
i can help myou
<rejection> then I am going to ask you to answer some questions and talk about your own experiences
sure!
okay
<rejection> the brain perceives rejection as a mortal threat, and the main responses to stress or danger are
<rejection> freeze
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
<rejection> flight
like a bot
hi
<rejection> fight
<rejection> it starts with shock and disbelief, leads into different stages that entail anger and depression and ultimately leads to letting go and resolution
get thee away
YYYYYYYYYYYEaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
FF, sure
<rejection> let yourself go through it. If you feel like youre going to fall, and if you go with it you probably wont get injured.
<rejection> If you resist, youll be much more likely to get injured
good joke!
<rejection> FREEZE is that profound sense of block and immovability. It even goes along with brain freeze, where you have trouble thinking and making sense of things
what a funny story
tell that to the insurance company
<rejection> FLIGHT is more the heart pumping, the anxiety, the tingling or numbness in ones body
hey, i am the Insurance Comp
be polite!
<rejection> FIGHT doesnt mean trying to strike back at the rejector
<rejection> It means persevering until you prevail, and it also means really working at your craft in a way that is between you and yourself
no?!
<rejection> so here are my questions
thanx
waiting
<rejection> when you hear the word 'rejection', what are the first 3 words which come to your mind?
nice legs!!!
<rejection> thanks
pain angst and father
religion
<rejection> any words?
profession
<rejection> great
back
loss
damn
<rejection> professional rejection
art
cold
<rejection> thats good
automatization
<rejection> uh huh
digitalization
<rejection> good words
you?
<rejection> what do you feel when you get rejected?
breathless
unUpStagezation
<rejection> yes
reactionary
shame
nothing
<rejection> speechless?
sadness
kicking someone in the b...
<rejection> uh huh
<rejection> yeah
silent
small
red
unique
like R
hehe
<rejection> violence
uhuhuhuh, no thanks
ignore
<rejection> how do you react?
enough i had
crawl under a stone
<rejection> do you?
build the armour
try to be positive
<rejection> really!
violence for the violence
<rejection> ooo
you are so ...
<rejection> get it on!!
FF
<rejection> fff
fucking fast!
wear a big cloak
<rejection> oh yeah
i can type so fast, hey!
<rejection> that
stratagize
see it as a temporary hurdle
<rejection> what do you do to get over your feelings?
slowliness
wait, just wait
have a bath
sleep
fuck
several times
do something nice for myself
<rejection> thats always good
<rejection> yeah i agree
come to upstage
<rejection> lol
walk in a windy place
lol
<rejection> that helps?
aha
<rejection> upstage?
always!
yes!
<rejection> there are many different kinds of rejections, lets take REJECTION LETTERS as an example
blow those cobwebs away
blup
<rejection> please
<rejection> about how many rejection letters have you received so far?
i hate them
no more please
i recieved last week
<rejection> uh?
ummmmm
still counting
too many for sanity
<rejection> last week!
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
<rejection> oh
hmmm 2 big ones
<rejection> thats not a number
for the stupid jobness
<rejection> oh yes
<rejection> what are some recurring phrases or words?
no, i had just 1 last week
why not?
that i dont exist
thnak you for your application/proposal
just, another candidate passed
<rejection> hu
and f...
<rejection> i like that dont exist
it hurts me more than it hurts you...
at least, they gave me back my doc.
i dont like it
strong application but...
<rejection> oh like the school teacher
<rejection> hurt me more
exactly!
please feel free to be in contact
<rejection> what criteria would make a good rejection letter?
how you knew that?
none
intention
<rejection> none?
could there be a good rejection letter?
<rejection> ok
you can get GOOd rjection?
<rejection> if you think so
gentle but clear
<rejection> nice
brief
<rejection> what would you like to do with all those letters?
to gove me some euro besides letter
yes, mataphisically, yes
empty
honest
to sell them?
throw
<rejection> rejection
I never keep them
i keeping them all
<rejection> reaction
<rejection> release
frame for prosperity
make a art work after
<rejection> recover
<rejection> rethink
nothing
<rejection> revisit
toilet paper?
<rejection> reach
<rejection> recap
bleach!
<rejection> re apply
recycle
<rejection> to quote creativity expert David Grand
for what hgell?
remotivate
who?
REVIEW
<rejection> artists are creative heroes striving against the odds
yeah yeah ...
<rejection> they dont create to succeed. They create to create. They try to succeed to prevail and live, but they create to create
not me
<rejection> no?
<rejection> but because they often work in isolation, they get rejected in isolation and need the web of connection and mutual support to help break the fall and bounce back
i am not of that kind!
they are init for the money and fame surely
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<rejection> rejection rejection. Heres a reflection, might get down but can turn it round
<rejection> rejection rejection. Heres a reflection, might get down but can turn it round
oh, good side of everything, sure
<james> the end
yeah!
<james> thats it
ooh, another rejection it seems
clap clap
love the big dance number at the end!
<james> thanks
<suzon> thanks
hey, return me my documents!!!!
<james> yeah the dance
good time of year to remind us
well done
<james> are they yours??
bravo
yes!
they are mine!!
<suzon> great responses
<james> you guys were good
give it back!
<suzon> did u hide?
<james> tapping away at the keys!
im not guy!
there is an extra charge for postage
no, you are hiding!
<suzon> where r u going?
i send you documents, no hiding!
<suzon> we continue dancing!
<james> staying here
to write another lettwer, of course
<james> where are u guys?
you gave me new infusion of courage!
aking lace out of old proposals
<james> which places?
<suzon> thats good
belgrade, of course
the cave of rejection
Beirut
<james> bb
<suzon> ah mem?
the city of unemployements!
yes
<james> bel and bei
<james> and bri
hi suz!
<james> for brisbane
oh
<suzon> all starting with B
<suzon> Big numbers!
<james> not r
<james> thank goodness
how nice! but no job, anyhow!
going to dig a hole in the sand.....
<james> no no pay
no pay?
bey?
<suzon> like performing on internet!!!
<suzon> hehe!
AND I TYPED AND TYPED AND...
<james> a big hole and make a sand castle
and sundathe in it
but i like that!
<james> yes
<suzon> am training to make sandcastle
sand no, but casstles, mmmm
in the sky
Hi James and Suzon - I really enjoyed the work - such an interesting start to the day... charlotte
<james> castles in the sand
no sky, please!
should we leave?
<james> charloote!!
<suzon> as u want
<james> charlotte
to live to sky?
<suzon> hi charlotte!
<james> hi
yes go home........ (soft rejection
<suzon> hi mem!
<suzon> hi nadia!
hi suzon!
<suzon> hi scotia
hi to everyone
hiiiiiiiiiiiii
ello!
<suzon> hi ?????
helloooo
<james> 6 in audience can we name them all??
and what about mems documents?
<suzon> who else is there?
give it back!!!!
<james> oh no there ours not mems
karine
lost in consideration process
<suzon> hi karine!
did they actually arrive???
oh, damn
i lost them again
<suzon> did u enjoy?
<james> they just look like hers maybe
which?
did u record the event now?
hers?
c'est pas evident de tout comprendre
<james> her documents
<suzon> oui j'ai enregistre
would like to access it online
<suzon> ma voix ne parle pas francais!!!
ok, you fooling me, i see
<suzon> mais j'en cherche une
have to go to municipality, again
<suzon> qui fonctionne
ceci dit c'est amusant
fucking documents... sorry
<james> they have documents there yes
it's mignon like this too
THANK YOU JAMES! I KNOW!
<james> ok yes of course
revamp
HA HA HA!
<suzon> il est temps de boire un cafe!
<suzon> il est tot ici
plz tell when the recording is accessible somehow online
voila
hmm see you guys look forward to your next performance... charlotte
<suzon> who is asking for recording?
recahrge - where is the coffee??
there is no online. just go to municip. to take the recordings
nadia...
je te laisse, je vais me faire un pique nique pour demain bonne journee et bon cafe
<suzon> ok will do
<james> there will be an UpStage walk thru on march 5
<suzon> merci!
for 5$?
<suzon> oui et le walk tru sera aussi en francais
great look forward to it
bisous a james et a toi
<james> where you can learn the basics of using this platform
<suzon> je prepare la traduction
where the documents are, you mean
<james> and creat yur own performances
suzon le matin il y avais deux voix
and document it
and documents
<suzon> cause u can also use webcam
une masculine
big brither sindrome
<suzon> and more sound possibilites
elle est ou?
<james> prerecorded sound, picture backdrops, drawing
and you can connect to SL... haha
<james> no
GREAT!
I HATE SL!
<suzon> no Second Life
<james> no 3d here
<suzon> although i visit it at times
WE LOVE YOU!!!!
is that a rejection?
<suzon> but cant really perform there yet
<james> we love you
<suzon> it is great for the installations
you went to spme municip. i n SL, sure?
<james> get any docs
<suzon> i go often to Odyssey
<james> ?
oh
<james> i go to upstage
<suzon> there is an artists Ramona who makes really cool installations
(for J: it was bad joke)
<james> in fact i'm there now
pourquoi il y a q une seul voix
?
no doubt
<surgeon> ceci est une autre voix
<james> not good with jokes
oh, james, you dissapointede
me
ah oui
<james> but make myself laugh sometimes
<surgeon> cela nous permet de changer de avatar pendant la performance et de faire croire que c'est le meme
even 30 minutes without sl is impossible?
<james> we change avatars
<surgeon> ah! u r an addict!!!!
ok, next time i will tell you when to smile and laugh
; )
[james] {)}
[james] {thinking}
(mem: ))
<suzon> soooo
lets go to sl than!
<james> 3 of you left
<suzon> shall we say good night!
<suzon> good day!
yes
morning!
night for me
<suzon> and c u soon for another cyberperf
ok
bye bye
<suzon> or walk tru
clap clap again
<james> breakfast for me now
<james> or back to bad
<suzon> if u come to walk tru, u need a log in
j ai enregistre avec ma camera mais ca reste un peux maladroi
oh, good morning
<james> or both
better breakfast
<suzon> ciao!
<suzon> cous cous
xxx
<suzon> kiss kiss
<james> cous cous
<suzon> cous cous
bye James and Suzon! thanx!
ti me dira ou je trlouvrai l enregitrement
<james> bye
the toe tapping trio
je te dit bey aussi suzon
salut
je t'enverrai un email ou tu peux telecharger le document video
salut!
et bon journee la ou vou ete:)
ah oui!
oui super
le document video te montrera ma fenetre
merci suzon
en train de jouer
avec la barre d'outils et le vestiaire
ok
c'est un peu different de ce que tu as vu
ciao! bonne nuit a beyrouth
je varrai car j e
je veux l utiliser pour le montrer comme exemple a mes etudiant ici
a beyrouth
ok bey suzon a bintot
bisous
salut
aloo
hello
when will the show start?
Bonsoir! Quand est-ce que ca commence?
On attend et comme soeur Anne on ne voit rien venir!!!
bonsoir c'est natalia en belgique
c'est commenc?
hello someone still here?
HELLO - the show is over; the times given were Australian times, which are ahead of you in Europe!
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sorry if you missed it because of the time difference
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we can ask suzon & james if they will do it again ...